Fuel System Questions
- SheepdogRD
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Re: Fuel System Questions
Okay, as long as we're on the topic of fuel systems . . . I'm wondering about fuel valves.
We have a valve on the main fuel line to the engine. If we have an engine fire, we can shut off fuel flow to the engine compartment.
But, if we have a return line that goes from the engine compartment to the top of the header tank, and if we assume that the header tank is full, then -- in the event of a fire -- couldn't that return line allow fuel to flow to the fire? If so, shouldn't we have a shutoff on the return line, as well?
We have a valve on the main fuel line to the engine. If we have an engine fire, we can shut off fuel flow to the engine compartment.
But, if we have a return line that goes from the engine compartment to the top of the header tank, and if we assume that the header tank is full, then -- in the event of a fire -- couldn't that return line allow fuel to flow to the fire? If so, shouldn't we have a shutoff on the return line, as well?
Richard Holtz
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Re: Fuel System Questions
I'm not positive about this, but I believe the wing tanks feed only from the rear. So, in the event of low fuel and a steep enough descent, the wing tank outlets would become unported and once the fuel in the lines were to be consumed the engine would stop. The header tank would extend the time before the engine quits. Another reason for the header tank could be to meet the Rotax requirement of having a return line. It's easier to run it to the header tank than to a wing tank, particularly with a folding wing.
With regard to the question of fuel running from the top of the header to the engine compartment, a check valve should be installed to prevent flow in that direction.
With regard to the question of fuel running from the top of the header to the engine compartment, a check valve should be installed to prevent flow in that direction.
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- SheepdogRD
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Re: Fuel System Questions
Thanks, Ken. I'll add that to the plan.kenryan wrote:With regard to the question of fuel running from the top of the header to the engine compartment, a check valve should be installed to prevent flow in that direction.
Richard Holtz
Highlander N570L -- Ms. Tonka -- in gestation
If just enough is really good, then too much ought to be perfect.
Highlander N570L -- Ms. Tonka -- in gestation
If just enough is really good, then too much ought to be perfect.
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Re: Fuel System Questions
On the Rotax there is a restricting orifice in the fitting that connects to the return line. It is designed so that the path of least resistance for fuel is to the carburetors, very little fuel goes through the return line. (particularly when the system is being fed only by gravity, in other words, fuel pump off) If there were a fire I think that would be a pretty small source of fuel.
GDS
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Re: Fuel System Questions
Thanks everyone!
I'm installing a Facet fuel pump, 3/8" aluminum fuel lines, 1/4" return line and aeroquip flexible hoses at the tanks. That should take care of the fuel system.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what I should agonize over next?
Thanks again,
Dan
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I'm installing a Facet fuel pump, 3/8" aluminum fuel lines, 1/4" return line and aeroquip flexible hoses at the tanks. That should take care of the fuel system.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what I should agonize over next?
Thanks again,
Dan
Highlander #268 N957DK
My philosophy: Build it like my life will depend on it.
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Re: Fuel System Questions
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Have a great day,
Steve
Have a great day,
Steve
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Re: Fuel System Questions
I like my auxiliary fuel pump. Sound is not too great on this video but listen carefully around 20 seconds. Hot day and I got minor vapor lock that cleared as soon as I flipped the switch.
http://vimeo.com/90458487
In 130 hours this is the only time I've had this problem.
http://vimeo.com/90458487
In 130 hours this is the only time I've had this problem.
GDS
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Rotax 912ULS, Dynon Skyview
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Rotax 912ULS, Dynon Skyview