Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
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Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
Hi,
Does any one have any performance and handling notes for the superstol, preferably with the 130 hp engine? although my aircraft hasnt arrived yet I am getting my navigation and other skills refreshed.
Things like aircraft weights, climb rates, fuel consumption at climb and cruise etc etc-it will give me something to work on with my nav prgrams.
Thanks
Allan
Does any one have any performance and handling notes for the superstol, preferably with the 130 hp engine? although my aircraft hasnt arrived yet I am getting my navigation and other skills refreshed.
Things like aircraft weights, climb rates, fuel consumption at climb and cruise etc etc-it will give me something to work on with my nav prgrams.
Thanks
Allan
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
Hi Alan,
Which 130hp engine are you asking about. If it's the UL Power it might be a few weeks before you can get some good info as there is a list member that has just finished his UL powered SS. If your talking about the turboed Rotax that is modified and estimated around 130hp then Steve Henry should be able to tell you all you want to know.
And then there is Steve Dentz that has quite a bit of time in a UL powered Highlander. Last discussion I remember hearing was when he flew in Idaho with Steve Henry (who at the time was in his first Highlander with 100hp Rotax) and the performance was just short of the 100hp Rotax. That may have changed as he was still playing with props etc. Hopefully they will chime in.
Which 130hp engine are you asking about. If it's the UL Power it might be a few weeks before you can get some good info as there is a list member that has just finished his UL powered SS. If your talking about the turboed Rotax that is modified and estimated around 130hp then Steve Henry should be able to tell you all you want to know.
And then there is Steve Dentz that has quite a bit of time in a UL powered Highlander. Last discussion I remember hearing was when he flew in Idaho with Steve Henry (who at the time was in his first Highlander with 100hp Rotax) and the performance was just short of the 100hp Rotax. That may have changed as he was still playing with props etc. Hopefully they will chime in.
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John Cooley
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
John,
Thanks for that, yes the rotax 130.
Allan
Thanks for that, yes the rotax 130.
Allan
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
Mine weighs 850 with 29's, climbs 1,000 to 1,500 fpm, and burns 6 to 6.5 gph @ 98 mph.
What an incredibly fun airplane it is. Had around 15 mph headwind at my local airport the other day and I was landing in the length of the airplane. Take-off was about the same. I went around several times and I would land 4 or 5 times down the runway each time around.
What an incredibly fun airplane it is. Had around 15 mph headwind at my local airport the other day and I was landing in the length of the airplane. Take-off was about the same. I went around several times and I would land 4 or 5 times down the runway each time around.
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
Not wishing to drift the thread, but I do wonder where you guys get your weight from!
My 912 Escapade weighs 266kg/585lbs with a full analogue panel and VP prop.... No Airstreaks, but nowhere that would make them worthwhile in Britain!
My 912 Escapade weighs 266kg/585lbs with a full analogue panel and VP prop.... No Airstreaks, but nowhere that would make them worthwhile in Britain!
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
Thanks Steve,
Been also thinking of a fuel bladder for some of the long trips I will be doing - hence the reasons for fuel consumption and cruise numbers. If I go that way it is better for me to fit the (removable) bladder setup before the airworthiness certification.
At home when I say that the paddock people are standing in is my airstrip I get them looking at me sideways - then I show them your video and that always blows them away!
The superstol has a lot more suspension etc weight - its a penalty in one way but it does things that other aeroplanes can only dream about - thats why they invented airstreaks - for other aeroplanes to try to save their landing gear! Useful for superstols though.........
Allan
Been also thinking of a fuel bladder for some of the long trips I will be doing - hence the reasons for fuel consumption and cruise numbers. If I go that way it is better for me to fit the (removable) bladder setup before the airworthiness certification.
At home when I say that the paddock people are standing in is my airstrip I get them looking at me sideways - then I show them your video and that always blows them away!
The superstol has a lot more suspension etc weight - its a penalty in one way but it does things that other aeroplanes can only dream about - thats why they invented airstreaks - for other aeroplanes to try to save their landing gear! Useful for superstols though.........
Allan
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
Steve,
You got your Catto yet? Has it made any difference to cruise and fuel consumption?
Allan
You got your Catto yet? Has it made any difference to cruise and fuel consumption?
Allan
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
I can understand a lot more suspension weight... but 265lbs more?Allan wrote:Thanks Steve,
Been also thinking of a fuel bladder for some of the long trips I will be doing - hence the reasons for fuel consumption and cruise numbers. If I go that way it is better for me to fit the (removable) bladder setup before the airworthiness certification.
At home when I say that the paddock people are standing in is my airstrip I get them looking at me sideways - then I show them your video and that always blows them away!
The superstol has a lot more suspension etc weight - its a penalty in one way but it does things that other aeroplanes can only dream about - thats why they invented airstreaks - for other aeroplanes to try to save their landing gear! Useful for superstols though.........
Allan
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
Hi Rick,
It's not just the landing gear...
The wing of the superSTOL is significantly heavier than the Highlander wing and the larger tail feathers also add weight. I wouldn't doubt that a similarly equipped SuperSTOL would weigh 75 to 100lb. more than a Highlander and 150 more than an Escapade with its shorter wings and smaller empennage. Add in a 914 (or turbo 912) instead of a 912 and a few other goodies and you can easily see a 200+lb. difference. Add the heavier gear and you're at the 250lb. difference in weight.
My 912uls-powered Highlander, with just a few personal touches is going to come in around 720lb. on 21" tundra tires and standard gear legs.
Dan
It's not just the landing gear...
The wing of the superSTOL is significantly heavier than the Highlander wing and the larger tail feathers also add weight. I wouldn't doubt that a similarly equipped SuperSTOL would weigh 75 to 100lb. more than a Highlander and 150 more than an Escapade with its shorter wings and smaller empennage. Add in a 914 (or turbo 912) instead of a 912 and a few other goodies and you can easily see a 200+lb. difference. Add the heavier gear and you're at the 250lb. difference in weight.
My 912uls-powered Highlander, with just a few personal touches is going to come in around 720lb. on 21" tundra tires and standard gear legs.
Dan
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
I don't have my Catto prop yet. I'm beginning to wonder if they will ever get it to me.
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
The fully skinned slats alone are pretty heavy.
I have my 130 waiting to mount
I have my 130 waiting to mount
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
So you're saying order it early...taildrgfun wrote:I don't have my Catto prop yet. I'm beginning to wonder if they will ever get it to me.
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
umm......I was hoping Steve already had his Catto - that sounds like it will affect his performance and with the long gear the long prop can be fitted.
The Catto sounds like what will be going on my plane............
Anyone have a weight and balance chart with loading stations? - after it to do approx planning work.
Allan
The Catto sounds like what will be going on my plane............
Anyone have a weight and balance chart with loading stations? - after it to do approx planning work.
Allan
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
I would like to go ahead an order a Catto prop now as I'm a few months away from completion, I hope, but have decided to wait and see how Steve likes the prop he ordered and maybe tweak my order from his learnings. Since I will have basically the same set up he has it should be valuable info.
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John Cooley
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Re: Superstol performance and handling - 130 hp
Well John,
Looks like you made the right choice again. And I made the wrong one. I have a Kiev prop ordered. Which given the current situation over there, and now the Russians moving in, having a Kiev prop on my airplane is looking like less and less of a reality everyday. UG!
Look me up when you get back stateside.
Looks like you made the right choice again. And I made the wrong one. I have a Kiev prop ordered. Which given the current situation over there, and now the Russians moving in, having a Kiev prop on my airplane is looking like less and less of a reality everyday. UG!
Look me up when you get back stateside.
Best,
Ben Schneider
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N45FT Now Flying!
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