(17) Seats ( Mike )

(17) Seats ( Mike )

Postby planecrazzzy » Wed May 12, 2010 7:52 am

Hey Guys,
I was looking all over for seats.... When I flew in a W-10 Tailwind ( Paul Baron's Plane )

He had Fiberglass "Bucket Seats"... They were Light.... but a little flimsy

I looked all over , but couldn't find seats "Skinny" enough....

Finally , I decided to cut/trim the seat to fit....

I bought Jegs "High Back" racing seats.... Fairly cheap...

and upholstered "Covers".... pretty cheap also
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I cut away the plastic with a Cut-off wheel....

and cleaned up and trimmed the hole with a carbide bit , used for aluminum...

The seats are fairly light.... But I will put holes in them to lighten them up even more...

Here's some pictures of what I have so far...
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Re: Seats

Postby planecrazzzy » Wed May 12, 2010 7:55 am

Hey Guys,

Once the clearance has been made for the seat to sit in it's position....

More of the area needs to be cleared for the upholstery to fit...

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Re: Seats

Postby planecrazzzy » Wed May 12, 2010 7:56 am

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Re: Seats

Postby planecrazzzy » Wed May 12, 2010 7:59 am

Hey Guys,
The seat is aprox 18.5" across at the bottom....

it varies a little... The Flap handle has plenty of clearance...

The seats get up to 19" wide before the upper "tapper"

this is where it was ok to crowd the Flap control "hoop"

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It's not easy finding a seat to fit in these tight areas.... I looked
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Re: Seats

Postby planecrazzzy » Tue May 18, 2010 3:17 pm

OK... From This point... I started putting in the Lightening Holes....

Steps were taken slowly , to check if too much strength was being lost....

Maybe Chromoly bracing or Aluminum skin would be needed....

No... after the Holes were finished.... I could turn the seat face down , and stand on it ( 210 lbs )

This seat is still plenty strong...

I have a bucket of plastic 2" plugs that came out of these seats... it weighs 5 lbs.... Plus a couple pounds worth of shavings...

The seats ended up weighing 8 lbs.... 9 lbs with the covers ....

That's what the average Tailwind seats weigh.... ( the light ones )

These seats have built in Lumbar support.... Very Comfortable
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Here's the rest of the Pictures...
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Re: Seats

Postby planecrazzzy » Tue May 18, 2010 3:19 pm

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Re: Seats

Postby planecrazzzy » Tue May 18, 2010 3:20 pm

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Re: Seats

Postby planecrazzzy » Tue May 18, 2010 3:21 pm

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Re: Seats

Postby planecrazzzy » Tue May 18, 2010 3:22 pm

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Re: Seats

Postby planecrazzzy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:32 am

Hey Guys,
Putting some finishing touches on the seat area...

I needed something to hold the shoulder strap .... I fly with it a little "loose" , so I can reach things.

This will keep it from falling off my shoulder....

The Strap can be taken out , so the seat can come out if needed....

it's not in the way of the seat cover....

I'll see how it grows on me.... I might just sew a velcro strap on the seat cover....

It would be lighter...
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Re: Seats

Postby planecrazzzy » Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:46 pm

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I decided I don't like the extra weight of the Shoulder Strap holder....

I'm going to drill out the rivets , and sew a strap on the Seat covers...

It'll have Velcro on it... It'll do the same job with less weight...

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Re: (17) Seats ( Mike )

Postby planecrazzzy » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:46 pm

Hey Guys,
Phase II of putting more "Lightening" holes in these seats...

I found a pattern that worked... I used my Die Grinder with an Aluminum Bit ( 1/2" dia )

In places that were too tight... I didn't push it all the way thru...
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Here's some pictures... I took extra "angle" shots in case somebody needs the detail...

These seats are still strong.... Total weight for each one WITH the cover is 8 lbs.....

( This was weighed with a Bathroom Scale.... Not too accurate I found out )
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Re: (17) Seats ( Mike )

Postby planecrazzzy » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:48 pm

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Re: (17) Seats ( Mike )

Postby planecrazzzy » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:55 pm

Hey Guys,
After all the holes were in place... I took an exacto knife and cleaned up some of the shavings...

After, I took a torch and lightly went over the whole seat.... Wow , it smooths out sharp edges and makes the finish look NEW...
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There "IS" room to put more holes in these.... These holes were part of a pattern....

I think I have them "Light" enough now.... I'm happy with them...

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Re: (17) Seats ( Mike )

Postby planecrazzzy » Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:19 am

A few more holes were added in the upper area...

Notice a structural type frame was left for strength...

I finally weighed them on a smaller scale....

Before , I'd stand on a bathroom scale , then grab the seat....

That works pretty good...

But putting them on a small shipping scale at work made me pretty happy...

The Seats weight 7-3/4 lbs....... Wow !

The Bad news.... The covers weigh about 2 lbs..... ( I thought they were lighter )

So.... Total weight for each seat is 9-3/4 lbs

Not bad for "High Back" seats .... Head rest and Lumbar Support
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