Off-Field regs

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Sir Real
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Off-Field regs

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Greetings;

I'm looking to build an LSA kit that fits my 6-4, 280 lb carcass, and the Highlander seems like it may be on the short list of what would qualify. I've been looking at this group, and enjoying, among other things, Taildrgrfun's videos.

Which brings me to my question: Is there any way to know where I am allowed to land off-airport? I know I need permission (or at least apathy) from the owner to land on private land, and, technically, a lack of laws forbidding it on most other places, but how can I tell about National Parks, National Forests,, BLM land, county or state land, and how do I tell the difference?
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Who's going to catch you????
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Post by Johnny C! »

In the minimal research that I have done on this
topic, it is appears to me that there are no significant
restrictions on landing or departing private property,
other than in restricted airspace. Look at Just's
strip. I suppose someone could pull the trespass
card, but that usually entails asking you to leave.
Government owned property may be different.

www.faa.gov has the FAR's, so if you're willing to
dig a little, you should be able to find the answers,
if you can understand the legalise (sp?) bs.

I have asked a few knowledgable pilots/instructors
about a possible personal airstrip location very near
a local airport, and none those I have asked said anything
remotely like I would be out of line. I do know that there
is a private strip that abuts a public strip in the area. 0A7.
Pilots landing at the private strip simply announce their
intentions on the CTAF, which is what I would do should my
strip ever come true. And there seems to be more and more
reasons to work out those details.


Also, it is common out west for GA aircraft to land outside
of some towns, taxi to the closest gas station & fill up. I don't
think I'll try that here.

As far as frame size, I'm 6'1, at 275 is, and I have to slide the
seat forward a notch or two, to get to the rudder pedals. A significant
selling feature, among several others, that sold me on Just.

Sorry to ramble. Good Luck!

John
There are many things that happen really fast when you are
flying an airplane. There is no sense in rushing any of the others.

I would much rather be looking down at the runway, than up at it.

Duane Sorenson & Rick Norton Gone West 6/8/09. Godspeed
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Post by Sir Real »

Who's going to carch me? With my historic luck, an overzealous Cub Scout with a cellphone working on his Stool Pigeon merit badge...   :?

I may be in the Walhalla area in about six weeks, over the weekend. How are the folks there on spur-of-the-moment tours, familiarization flights, dumb questions from beginners, etc?
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Post by scubarider2 »

hahahaha....boy scouts.....
anyway....you might want to call Troy to make sure he will be there.  He has the new baby and might be out changing diapers or teaching him to fly.... :lol:
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Hey guys I'm usually there on Sat for a while I will be if I know your coming.   Jak
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Post by Lynng »

Many areas of the US are considered to be REMOTE and only accessible by air.  That being the case the PIC has full responsibility to under part 91 to have all available information on his landing "ENVIRONMENT" or runway prior to departure for his point of "intended" landing.  Here is the catch.  A pilot can land anywhere anytime anyplace they feel it is safe to do so "IF" they need to.....so the moral of the story is always have a good reason and as much info under your belt as you can then, go for it.  Many State laws like SC GA FL prohibit aircraft from landing on the coastal beaches, but as pilot in command if you had to check something on your airplane for a safety of flight issue you can land as necessary under the FAR's.
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Post by cwqnee »

I have done some limited research into this question. The one section of the AIM that seems to apply is Chapter 7, Section 6, Paragraph 2, Aircraft Accident and Incident Reporting. This would apply if the aircraft were in an accident during the off-airport landing or caused substantial damage (=> $25K) to property during the landing. In which case expeditious reporting must be made to the nearest NTSB Field Office. That Section of the AIM provides some accident definitions and details of the reporting requirements.

I think in most cases a previous reply might govern -- IOW, who's to know?

That being said I'd be very cautious about dropping in on National Park or State Park properties. Out West, BLM or National Forests are probably a different story.
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